Rock versus Pop

Notes from Carducci,  Frith, and Clawson

"The guitar dominates rock like the singer dominates pop. The guitar even obscures the contribution of the rhythm section for the casual listener, although initially this was not the case. Before rock and roll became rock, the guitar was fairly clipped in sound and its character was more rhythmic than melodic..."[p.7]
"To the extent that the pop artist is able to cadge rock credibility while pulling the modern pop scam, he is a worse threat to rock music than the older more easily identified models of Industry pop hustle."[p.25]
"With just a little sleight of mind, this pop circus gets presented as if it were the rock world. And soon enough, once hooked on the pop narcotic, the rock press is dead to rock music. It makes them nauseous."[p.25]
Joe Carducci, Rock and the Pop Narcotic: Testament for the Electric Church Volume .1, Chicago: Redoubt Press 



 "...terms- 'pop' and 'rock' have long been loaded labels, made to mean different things to different people. What's at issue is the opposition authenticity/artifice; what's impossible is to make the distinction stick." "In the USA roots and rural musics still have presence and a rock Romanticism has developed...that celebrates the star as democratic representative, speaking FOR the culturally dispossessed. Romantics in Britain speak only for themselves, and seek, usually in vain, to state their differences from everyone else." [p.74]
"Rock, then, unlike pop, was to be serious, progressive, truthful, and individual, a cluster of terms whose significance lay in the Romantic self-image of the 1960s art student, and it was to be hugely successful." "If, as Iain Chambers suggests, British beat was the sound of 'a male camaraderie, formed at school, on the street corner, at art college or in a gang', then the art students fed into rock their own account of gender difference, an account with certain misogynistic tendencies (which were to be made obvious in 1970s cock rock). In part these reflected the usual bohemian rebellion against domesticity and the bourgeois family, the assertion that 'the artist' is, by 'his' nature, stifled by family life." [p.90]
"music-making was now only a means to an end; commercial and aesthetic success were measure by the same criteria. Image, as Adam Ant, the first star to make the move from punk to new pop, realized, was all that he had to sell." "For the new pop acts it was not a question of making good music then marketing it; it was skill in the sales process that made the music 'good.'"[148]"The original idea of rock authenticity came from a straightforward Romantic ideology of creativity. For the 1960s art school beat musicians, true expression was defined against both bourgeois and showbiz convention, and 'rock' was differentiated from 'pop' along the axes of passion, commerce and complexity."[p.145]
 Simon Frith and Howard Horne  Art into Pop, London:Methuen, 1988

"In contrast to pop music, with its focus on the vocalist, backed by anonymous studio musiicans, rock music identifies the entire band as its ideal creative and performing unit, its focus of attention and adulation."[p.101]
Mary Ann Clawson "Masculinity and Skill Acquisition in the Adolescent Rock Band." Popular Music 18.1 (1999): 99-114.